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 Post subject: Marmol 2
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:29 am 

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New skin
Forecast only
To install extract the archives in the folder "/Weather Watcher/Skins/Forecasts"

http://ar.geocities.com/barba_roar/ww/Marmol20En.zip

Nuevo skin
Solo Pron?stico
Para instalarlo extraer los archivos en la carpeta "/Weather Watcher/Skins/Forecasts"
http://ar.geocities.com/barba_roar/ww/Marmol20Es.zip


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:06 am 
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:shock: Well that's a different approach!!

Thanks barba. :icon_smile:

(BTW If one renames the .zip file to be .wws, the Weather Watcher Install Wizard will install it to the proper WW folder. ;-) )


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:08 pm 

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GREAT JOB!!!! :thumbright:

I changed the background color in Style.css (line 2) and changed the border colors to brown.

I centered the temperature on the bulb of the thermometer.

I fixed the Options window so it wouldn't block the moon phases.

I centered the word "Current" to the current conditions

The word "Wind" on the main screen was in all lowercase and I corrected that.

Various typos corrected.

Check it out!

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Click on the thumbnail for full size.


Download it at http://webpages.charter.net/david1970/marmol2.wws


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:22 pm 

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In that last picture, there is a bug.

When the forecast description is too long (such as "Clouds Early / Clearing Late"), it throws everything off.

David


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:56 am 
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dlbryant wrote:
In that last picture, there is a bug.

When the forecast description is too long (such as "Clouds Early / Clearing Late"), it throws everything off.

David

I see that. I also see Current in mixed case and TONIGHT and TOMORROW all in caps. :razz:

Note: The Current forecast includes the Wind icon. Moving the title to the left leaves the wind indicator hanging in the wind. :???:

For the forecast problem you can test for the length of the tags and then either truncate it when it's longer than a certain number of characters or reduce its font size or both.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:08 am 

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The mixed cast titles are for current data, while the uppercase titles are for forecast data. I tried putting everything in uppercase, but it was like screaming to the user.

As for the forecast problem, the solution is far beyond my knowledge of HTML, so I leave that to you and Barba.

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UPDATE I decided to place "Current" and "Wind" in all caps.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:01 am 

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In addition to the "long forecast" bug, we have the mouseover bug at the daily forecast screen.

After midnight local time to 3AM, the mouseover for the first day does not work and you only get the night forecast for the second day.

Here's the bug at work:

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UPDATE It seems the bug only affects North, Central, and South America....could this be a problem with weather.com? The bug only seems to appear when weather.com from midnight till 3 AM fills all the values except for the day's high. Again, this only happens in the Americas.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:45 am 

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I reduced the font in style.css for the current and forecast conditions so they fit in nicely.

Here's an example:


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As for the mousover problem, it starts at midnight my time (I live in Virginia) and affects every city from the Atlantic time zone to the International Dateline. For example, American Samoa and Hawaii is affected, but not New Zealand. It goes away at 3AM my time.

You can download my version of the Marmol skin at
http://webpages.charter.net/david1970/marmol2.wws


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:05 am 
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dlbryant wrote:
I reduced the font in style.css for the current and forecast conditions so they fit in nicely.

Another possibility, edit the text replacing select character strings with others. For example, replace "and" with "&" or "/".

The CURRENT and WIND headings appear to be larger than the TONIGHT and TOMORROW headings.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:23 am 

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The headings are fixed, but I don't know how to put "&" or "/" in the forecast string...that's beyond my knowledge of HTML.

What do you think is the cause of the mouseover bug?

David


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:26 am 
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dlbryant wrote:
how to put "&" or "/" in the forecast string...that's beyond my knowledge of HTML.

Look for a little Javascript code. It's used it in the Stone soup skin.
Code:
document.body.innerHTML=document.body.innerHTML.replace('Wind/N/A.gif"> ','Wind/N/A.gif">')
Code:
EdsTemp = EdsTemp.replace('F/','F<br>');

dlbryant wrote:
What do you think is the cause of the mouseover bug?

Inconsistent data and no code to compensate combined with no means to use fixed test data and an inconvenient time for live data. :lol:


Addendum

Personally I don't understand why a version of DL.EXE can't be developed that reads it's data from a text file stored on the hd and passes it to WW.EXE rather than reading data from weather.com. It would make testing all aspects of WW so much easier for everyone.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:21 pm 

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Ed, can you restate your explanation of the mouseover problem in real English...your explanation went totally over my head. It's mysterious why weather.com fills in the values (except for the high) for the afternoon of the first day from midnight to 3AM, but only for this side of the earth.

I also replace the image for sunny. My folder is called Daves Marmol2 so it won't overwrite Barba's version.

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http://webpages.charter.net/david1970/marmol2.wws

David


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:10 pm 
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dlbryant wrote:
Ed, can you restate your explanation of the mouseover problem in real English...your explanation went totally over my head.

Good grief. :lol:

Inconsistent data (weather.com is not providing a consistent data format 24x7) and no code to compensate (weather.com should fix their program coding to correct the data format problem or the WW skins should add code to handle the inconsistent weather.com data to present a consistent window format to it's users 24x7) combined with no means to use fixed test data (the only way to test WW skin changes is via the WW Update button but the data coming from weather.com may change and not be in the format that is causing the problem the code is trying to fix) and an inconvenient time for live data (the problem before us occurs between midnight and 3:00AM which is when some of us sleep!!).

That better? :iconbiggrin:


dlbryant wrote:
My folder is called Daves Marmol2 so it won't overwrite Barba's version.

You're learning "Grasshopper". (And if you don't know what that means you may have to ask your mom. Or Grandma. :lol: )

And since your version is now unique maybe it's discussion should move to your thread. ;-)


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:39 am 

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fixed some errors
to install renames the .zip file to be .wws, the Weather Watcher Install Wizard will install it to the proper WW folder.(tks EdP)
geocities it does not allow .wws files

http://ar.geocities.com/barba_roar/ww/Marmol20En.zip

Corregido algunos errores
Para instalarlo cambiar la extensi?n .zip por .wws y ejecutarlo, el skin se instalara en la carpeta correspondiente.
geocities no permite archivos .wws

http://ar.geocities.com/barba_roar/ww/Marmol20Es.zip

hugs / un abrazo
Barba


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:39 am 

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Barba,

The wooden tiles at the bottom of the skin are too dark. The numbers are hard to read against that dark background. Try to lighten the color of the tiles.

David


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