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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:07 pm 
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Since none of my skins use Registry settings and I believe the WW Wizard only looks at the Registry to find the install location for WW I have no idea what your problems are. On one pc WW is installed in the standard default location and on others it is on drives other than C: even and the Wizard installs the skins fine.

I don't use DTA so I can't help you with that but clicking on the download link should invoke RapidShare and it should prompt you for the file's name. It sounds like you right clicked on the link and tried to download it in which case I have no idea what you got.

Hopefully a System Restore will resolve your problems and let you start over.


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Ummm, no, but you included a file in the download called "Ed's WW Export template.reg" - and that may be causing my problems, I'll try removing that key and seeing what it does.

I did not right click to download, the DTA thing was something I mentioned, not asking for help, because I figured it out already - it was just a mention in case someone else using Firefox with Down Them All extension attempts to download your file through Rapidshare may encounter the same program.

I despise System Restore - and turn it off.

I fix my own problems manually - a system restore is only as good as the point you restore it to - and not every app that gets installed creates a restore point, so that means the potential loss of who knows how many apps.

I'll see if the export template you included is the culprit - as I don't export at the moment, I really had no need for that in the first place, I guess.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:11 pm 
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Ummm, no, but you included a file in the download called "Ed's WW Export template.reg"

:shock: So I did!! I thought I had that as a text file. But the WW Wizard doesn't import it it requires manual intervention.

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I'll try removing that key and seeing what it does.

Yes please report back. Even if the key doesn't match your system I don't see why it would impact your system. What version of Windows are you running and what is your Registry key for VA and VBA settings for WW?

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I despise System Restore - and turn it off.

I don't and find it useful for quick fixes. I only allocate enough space to it to allow me to go back 3 or 4 days, anything further gets into the problem you refer to namely how many other changes do you risk loosing.

While not every app sets a System Restore point, my systems set on every day automatically and depending on what I plan on installing I sometimes manually create restore points.

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I'll see if the export template you included is the culprit - as I don't export at the moment, I really had no need for that in the first place, I guess.

And yet you installed it. :razz: When you open the WW Options window's Export tab do you see the customized template? If so it would indicate that the reg key is correct for your WW.


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EdP wrote:
johngalt wrote:
Ummm, no, but you included a file in the download called "Ed's WW Export template.reg"

:shock: So I did!! I thought I had that as a text file. But the WW Wizard doesn't import it it requires manual intervention.


Yeah, I manually fiound the right hive to which it belonged, edited the key and it imported successfully.

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johngalt wrote:
I'll try removing that key and seeing what it does.

Yes please report back. Even if the key doesn't match your system I don't see why it would impact your system. What version of Windows are you running and what is your Registry key for VA and VBA settings for WW?


Windows Vista Ultimate (upgrade) - re: VA and VBA settings, ummm let me look - mind clarifying those acronyms, though? VBA I thought was Visual Basic for Apps, and I thoguht that only got installed with Office, which I don't ahve in any form, on this computer....

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johngalt wrote:
I despise System Restore - and turn it off.

I don't and find it useful for quick fixes. I only allocate enough space to it to allow me to go back 3 or 4 days, anything further gets into the problem you refer to namely how many other changes do you risk loosing.

While not every app sets a System Restore point, my systems set on every day automatically and depending on what I plan on installing I sometimes manually create restore points.


That is a thought. I test so many different programs that usually, after 6 months, I performa a re-install - but this is a temporary setup as I am trying to find a way to customize my Vista install so I can move special folders to different partitions, thereby saving my data even when requiring a full format of the system partition. So I am not worried about the bloating of the registry and such, right now. A Daily System Restore, like every night at 5 am (allowing for the 3 AM Windows Update installs) may actually be good *or* bad, depending upon what WU gets me stuck with....

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I'll see if the export template you included is the culprit - as I don't export at the moment, I really had no need for that in the first place, I guess.

And yet you installed it. :razz: When you open the WW Options window's Export tab do you see the customized template? If so it would indicate that the reg key is correct for your WW.


Actually, no it doesn't - I shoudl ahve checked before. So that key, though editied for my USER string, is still ineffective. Which means taht the WW settings are elsewhere, and it now indicative that this key could in fact be causing the problem. Let me get rid of it - and report back.


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johngalt wrote:
Windows Vista Ultimate (upgrade) - re: VA and VBA settings, ummm let me look - mind clarifying those acronyms, though? VBA I thought was Visual Basic for Apps, and I thoguht that only got installed with Office, which I don't ahve in any form, on this computer....

I don't have Office on this pc either but VB and VBA is there, it's put there by WW in my case.

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johngalt wrote:
I'll see if the export template you included is the culprit - as I don't export at the moment, I really had no need for that in the first place, I guess.

And yet you installed it. :razz: When you open the WW Options window's Export tab do you see the customized template? If so it would indicate that the reg key is correct for your WW.

Actually, no it doesn't - I shoudl ahve checked before. So that key, though editied for my USER string, is still ineffective. Which means taht the WW settings are elsewhere, and it now indicative that this key could in fact be causing the problem. Let me get rid of it - and report back.

Wow!!

Ok, well once you get the system stablized, open the .reg file in Edit mode, highlight everything from the "<!-- saved from url=(0031)http://www.singerscreations.com --> to the
</HTML>" and Copy it. Then open WW's Options window's Export tab, click on Enable Exporter then Paste the copied code into the Export Template window. Remove the quotes at the begining and end and input a location and Apply it. Now open the Registry and find the code. What is the key in Vista where it is is stored?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:29 am 

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It's stored right there where it is supposed to be.

My user string is different from yours, but the first thing I did was to edit that, and then import it - but I verified that, although it said the file was imported successfully, the changes are not there - but that *is* the correct way, because when I started having the problem, I went into the options panel and hit the "Use Default" on export, which was still unchecked.

Other than my user string being different the path is the same - but the error still occurs with the default settings in place, and AFAICT nothing else was in that registry key, so *it* is not to blame.

So, something else is at work here (and it might even be a 're-manifestation' of Vista issues....though that it doubtful because I was able to adjust the Splendid options before and it had no problem saving the settings before, so it should not be cycling the options panel.

The really weird thing is that I can open options from the tray icon just fine - it opens once and closes it. Only from the viewed does it go awry. I just thought it had stopped doing it but it has not - I checked the ownership of the folders and they are like every other app installed, so I am not sure what is causing the problem now, and other than uninstalling, cleaning the registry, and re-installing, I am not sure where to go.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:16 am 
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Well WW is fairly well self contained. You could try installing it on another machine and see if the problem reoccurs.

Set a System Restore point first, install it, test it, install my skins (and do nothing more what the WW Skin Wizard installs :iconbiggrin: ), test it, uninstall it, delete the WW folder, do a System Restore.

I don't have Vista up so I can't help much. Sorry.

There were some problems with WW when IE 7 1st appeared, but not what you describe.

If you change Interface skins do you still have the problem? The Options button is tied to them rather than the Forecast skins.


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happens on all skins, but only started happening after I installed your set of skins. But I cannot honestly recall the last time I used the options button from the app view to begin with, so I really should say I first noticed it after installing your skins.

I don't have another computer to try it on (well, I do, but cannot get to it for a day or so) so I'll go the uninstall / clean / reinstall route for now.


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Uninstalled, removed files left over in directory and pruned Registry of all mention to ww.exe / weather watcher. Reinstalled latest version from new download.

Still happening, and regardless of skin choice. I am ceasing discussing this further here as it appears to be more of a WW issue than a skin issue.


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Running the most recent Ed's package skin tray icons and find the Cloudy night time condition icon displays the Couldy daytime icon. It's currently 12:50AM on 08/25/07 and the icon is blue as can be with a single cloud in the middle. Yes, weather was retrived a couple of times; and the most recent manual retrive 12:53AM.


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I hear ya. And you will see the same effect regardless of which icon group you select. It's because that is the same icon shown on weather.com.

I don't know what the solution is but the problem has existed for some time now.

Its interesting that the reverse doesn't seem to occur, ie a night version icon displayed in the daytime.


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Hey, someone get a icon creator and make a night time Couldy icon for the tray. Send it to weather.com and say, here's the icon you need to be in compliance with night time.

Update: Next day, it's 1:42PM and the icon is showing Thunder in the Vicinity as a night icon. Wah... I want it to be blue. hehe


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That icon goof by weather.com wasn't nearly as bad as when all the forecasts in Iraq were off by 20-25 degrees. I called the main webmaster at the Weather Channel office in Atlanta and they corrected it. So thy do listen to its consumers.

David


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Thiggy wrote:
Hey, someone get a icon creator and make a night time Couldy icon for the tray.

:icon_smile: It's not a question of creating an icon, there are several that represent a night time cloudy scene, it's a matter of weather.com referencing/indicating a night time icon rather than a day time one.

It's possible that weather.com is considering the phase of the moon with their icon choice. We are close to a full moon so the nights are fairly bright at this point. ;-)


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The EdsSkins file has been updated. See the 1st posting for the new download link.


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